Many people site the reason they want to work for themselves is because they have “not too fond feelings” for their current superior.
Or, you read the sales letters and it’s always something like “fire your boss”, or ” sick of answering to your dreadful boss”, and many other versions of the same thought.
It got me to thinking, how many of your are trying to go into business for yourself because you just can’t stand your boss? For me, that has no impact on my decision to pursue self employment.
I’ve always wanted to work for myself, from home, so I can have the freedom to do what I want, when I want, and for my family to have that same freedom.
I actually have a great boss at work! The main reason I am still at my current employer, and haven’t left, is because of him. However, I have heard horror stories of folks and their bosses.
Just recently when I was reading Joel Comm’s book, there was a story about Mike Filsaime. Once his boss found out about his part time job online, things became hectic.
Now, I’m not saying I go around talking about my part time adventures with my boss, because that wouldn’t be appropriate in the context of our work. I do know that many people have issues with their management, and that it’s a contributing factor to why they want to work for themselves.
This is not to be confused with hating your job, which we will talk about in a future post lol. This is specifically for those that don’t really mind the work, but just can’t stand who they work for.
I know you lucky dudes, the college kids that started IM during highschool and never had to work for anyone else may not understand this. Or the self employed individual who has always worked for themselves. This is for those that do, or have worked for someone else.
How was or how is your relationship with the person or people you work for? Does it have anything to do with your drive and determination to succeed online?
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September 26th, 2008 at 9:35 am
My relationship with my boss is great, then again I work for my father so this isn’t really a fair topic for me.
I word at a Medical Billing company that my dad owns and have for 12 years, since I was 13, I want to work for myself not because I hate my boss, but because I don’t love my job and want the freedom to do what I choose.
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September 26th, 2008 at 9:28 pm
Hahahaha, kinda hard to hate you boss on that one huh? Welcome to the site Adam, look forward to seeing your input in the future. I feel you about not loving your job…I think doing something you love and truly enjoy while getting paid is the ultimate goal!
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September 26th, 2008 at 11:56 am
Sometimes I wish I did have a boss to hate but I work for myself so I guess I can’t hate my boss. When I used to work for someone else me and my bosses had a love/hate relationship. I think a boss needs to keep that certain aspect there not to become too good of friends with anyone at work because you lose a certain amount of respect needed.
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September 26th, 2008 at 9:25 pm
Yeah, they don’t need to be good friends to be cool bosses. But, it’s cool you work for you!
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September 26th, 2008 at 12:56 pm
I love my boss and totally respect him. He’s a smart and funny guy and works like a mad man…I don’t feel like I could make better than he’s doing. In fact I think he’s the perfect match for his job and he’s one of the top in his field. The reason I want to work for myself is really just because I like trying my own ideas without any criticism or constraints. If it works fine, if it doesn’t work then I’ll try something else. It’s so much easier to try and experiment with out of the box ideas when you’re alone…or a small team.
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September 26th, 2008 at 9:25 pm
Yep, that freedom of expression Ben, that’s real right there. I agree man, and that breeds so much more progress I think.
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September 26th, 2008 at 12:58 pm
Crunchy hot pockets? What’s that all about? LOL!
I am one of those people that you say cannot relate. Since getting out of college, I have worked for myself. So, I don’t hate my boss….the wife, LOL!
Seriously, I dislike the wear and tear of my profession,…so that is pushing my urgency. I guess I just don’t enjoy it anymore. It is time to move on. I own a real estate appraisal business. In addition to the market madness, it is just time to move on.
I appreciate all this business and profession has done for me. Heck, it has set me up for the IM opportunity in the first place. I have always been taking money from that business to buy resources for this one.
I didn’t grow up saying I would own an appraisal business. I grew up wanting to own a media corporation. Who would have know it would be online?
I didn’t, but it’s all good!
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September 26th, 2008 at 9:23 pm
Yeah, you the man…crunchy hot pockets man, I don’t know what up with that…but…kids put em in those sleeves, and people eat em that way! Not me….no crunchy bread for me at all lol. Bread is soft…that’s how it was meant to be!
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September 26th, 2008 at 1:41 pm
@ Freddie – I’m totally feeling where you’re coming from. When I was growing up I wanted to be a singing dentist, than a fireman… I’m a musician by passion, and if 10 years ago you told me I would be building websites and networking with people on the Internet creating future business models, I would of told you to play in traffic. It’s funny how things work themselves out. God never fails to make things interesting for us!
@ Joe – Deep topic man. Everything you said in your video are topics that I think hard on almost every day. The hustle and bustle.. and I look at people on the train and think to myself “what’s wrong with these people? why are they all afraid to take risks?”
lol @ selling Google PR Backlinks on the corner to people who don’t have websites… I love when the mind goes off like that.. beautiful things happen.
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September 26th, 2008 at 9:22 pm
A singing dentist! That joint would have been ill son! You need to do that still.
Yeah man, I honestly just never saw myself “retiring” for some company! I always had a feeling of working for myself, I just didn’t know what! Who knew it would be IM? In highschool my mom had to force me to take keyboarding class, she said computers were the way of the future. I figured I didn’t need to know how to type unless I was going to be a secretary…and that wasn’t happening.
Honestly, I used to want to be a fashion designer…still self employed!
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September 26th, 2008 at 2:05 pm
what if you hate your boss but you are your own boss?? lol…
Naw, like Freddie said, the wife is the boss, can’t hate her!
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September 26th, 2008 at 9:18 pm
Hahahaha….then I say you need to go see Dr. Phil if you hate yourself, or see the local street pharmacist for some assistance! lol
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September 26th, 2008 at 2:41 pm
whats crackin joe? bosses tend to get a bad rep cuz of their responsibility towards work. its almost the same hate thats resented towards cops, teachers, parole agents, etc. these guys all keep us in check and make sure everything is legit. the cool bosses that i’ve had are usually the ones that don’t give a f about the company… they are just there for the bi-weekly check just like us.
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September 26th, 2008 at 9:16 pm
Well, I hear you, but that’s not always true! Some cool bosses actually handle biz. My boss is super dedicated, and he just respects folks that know what they are doing. So, that makes for a good working environment for me.
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September 26th, 2008 at 3:33 pm
I haven’t had a boss in a while, but when I did, I didn’t hate him. I was unhappy with some of the positions I was in, but at the time, I wasn’t doing anything about it. In my opninion, it’s always on YOU, not your boss, your wife, your grandmother, your dog, or your goldfish.
Stop complaining (or hating) and make a move. Trust me though, I’m not preaching. I know it’s not easy. But, sometimes you gotta be willing to sacrifice in order to get where you want to be in life. You’ll appreciate it any success that much more if it’s not “handed to you” anyway.
@Joe:I know what your schedule is, and you’re a great example of what I’m talking about. How many people are willing to set their alarm at 3am to work on a side project and give up “couch potato time” in the evenings in order to get ahead? Not many. Then, out of those who are willing, how many stick to it until it works? Not many.
If you do say you “hate your boss”, flip that right now and say you love your boss and smile on the way to work. You should love your boss for giving you the motivation to want to work for yourself, if that’s what does it for you.
I’m with Elijah, I love the randomness of “selling PR on the corner to people without websites”. Wacky thoughts are what gets me through the day lol.
Cheers
Jay!
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September 26th, 2008 at 9:15 pm
You right man! But so many people use others as motivation, or let others bring them down and stop them from pursuing their goals. I just wondered. It seems like a common thought, that those trying to work for themselves hate their boss or their job. I think it’s just about true preservation.
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September 26th, 2008 at 4:13 pm
Fortunately I have never had a boss that I haven’t gotten along with. I have found that a good working relationship with your boss isn’t only about doing good work and kissing up.. It’s really more about the same thing as keeping your customers happy… First thing to think about is what is important to your boss… what makes him tick? Talk to him, or her, about what is important to them. And, most importantly, be genuine in your interest. People can smell a fake a mile away!!
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September 26th, 2008 at 9:13 pm
Welcome Mike…yeah, I hear that man. That’s how I feel, it’s a mutual respect thing. I don’t expect to go out and chill with my boss, but we have a great working relationship.
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September 26th, 2008 at 4:38 pm
I can’t believe this is the first time I’m commenting here. I read you all of the time, but the auto-fills were blank.
I have a good boss. I have a good job. For me, it is having something that I own. The client’s I bring on here, the work I put into the co’s website, the programs I develop, ultimately belong to him and make his business more profitable.
With my personal sites, I’m building something I own. At this point, I’ll be using the income to help kids with college and fun trips for the family.
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September 26th, 2008 at 9:12 pm
hahaha, I think you commented as Top CD Rates before? Either way, it’s all good. And you’re right man, being able to build something that is yours, and that can help provide a solid future for your family is a real factor. I agree….college for kids is one of my main motivators.
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September 26th, 2008 at 4:40 pm
I really like my boss too. Infact, we play poker together outside of work and have drinks. I also really like my job as well. Sure, there are crappy days here and there… but overall it’s a great place. My reason for wanting to be self employed is to simply make more. Face it, as long as you work for someone else, you’ll always make less than the owner, and can only make as much as the business can allow (from profits). I think working for yourself allows you pay yourself the best and at the same time, to expand your business in the way you see fit. Hopefully with bigger profits to follow as well.
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September 26th, 2008 at 9:11 pm
Welcome to the site Biz! Yeah man, it’s true…you’ll always be making things better for someone else unless you own the joint!
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September 26th, 2008 at 9:04 pm
I quit the 9 to 5 day job about 3 years ago to pursue internet marketing, so I am my own boss but I still really good friends with my previous boss. We actually just went camping with him and his family. LOL!
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September 26th, 2008 at 9:10 pm
Welcome to the site Mary! That’s cool, makes things a lot easier.
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September 26th, 2008 at 10:42 pm
I’ve only worked for 2 companies my entire life. The main one was in the hospitality industry, but I’ve never had a problem with any of my former employers.
To my surprise, when I got my first job, I was the perfect employee.
So perfect, the boss would play tricks and make fun of me, so that I could loosen up.
I always thought the workplace was a serious place, but that wasn’t the case where I worked at.
I guess it depends on the type of person your boss is.
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September 27th, 2008 at 11:16 am
Yeah, the different environments are crazy. Like I said, my place isn’t really bad at all. My boss knows my talents, and let’s me use them. But, I’m just results based, when my work is directly related to my income, or progress…I’m much more enthusiastic.
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September 27th, 2008 at 12:28 am
I love my boss! She rocks! Oh wait, that’s me.
I haven’t worked for anyone else since shortly following college. Had good bosses, had a few, not so good but I honestly can’t imagine working for someone else ever again.
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September 27th, 2008 at 11:13 am
You could never work for anyone, you take too long of a vacation! Face it, it’s never going to happen, just keep plugging away, and your income will only grow. I’m still waiting for the Secret book of Jeni!
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September 27th, 2008 at 9:34 am
I don’t hate my boss, but I’ve always had the opinion that, if someone’s going to be senior to me, they need to deserve to be. I’m getting to the point now where the people right in front of me seem to be just waiting for retirement, not really caring so much but also not in a position where they can easily get fired, and they’re not really deserving of my respect, so it’s time to move on. (I work for the government, so my experience might be different from other folks here)
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September 27th, 2008 at 11:12 am
Oh man, don’t get me started on that. Like I said, the guy I work for now, he deserves it. I feel I should be able to go to my boss and ask questions when I’m stuck you know? I didn’t always have that. So, that makes a difference. But, I still want to work for me lol. I work for the government too, so I know all about it man!
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September 27th, 2008 at 10:46 am
I am 17 and I went out to get a job just to feel what it’s like to work for somebody else. And it’s terrible.
My boss thinks he can make more than I did and always see me as a loser.
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September 27th, 2008 at 11:07 am
Hahahaha, I hear ya man. You young boys man…I wasn’t even thinking like yall at that age. Yall got the jump man, at that age, I didn’t know no better, I knew I wanted to work for myself, but didn’t know how.
Like I said, I wanted to design clothes lol. I didn’t get the internet until after I got married, and it wasn’t really for anything to make money. I was just downloading mp3s and browsing.
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September 27th, 2008 at 11:05 am
I know that I never had a boss since I started when I was really young but, I can imagine how the situation can get bad when people have to deal with a boss who is ungrateful or doesn’t realize the effort you put into things. I think that I’d be satisfied working for myself and I think what you said that you have to make money for yourself is a key point. I want to help myself succeed in the long run rather than working towards a goal that will only benefit me partially and will benefit someone else (CEO, President) much more.
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September 27th, 2008 at 11:19 am
Exactly bro! It’s all about the future man. Happiness looks different for many people, some don’t mind working for others. But us rebellious folks, who need to work for ourselves, it can be very discouraging trying to get to the point of self employment, unless you’ve always been that way!
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September 27th, 2008 at 12:41 pm
Good question joe. My short answer is you are who you are and you do what you do. If you arent hurting anyone then why be afraid to do it or speak about it. My boss knows what I do and we talk about it, and I have told him out right, Im not going to get rich or get where I want to be working for you so I have to have an alternate plan, preferrably multiple streams of income.
I goes back to the wealth quadrant, you have to have businesses, investments, real estate, and passive income.
PLUS I dont want my income level to be externally determined by forces beyond my control.
True dat money is only one aspect of happiness and Im working on happiness on a few other levels, physical, mental, spiritual. Its a whole package, not just one thing
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September 27th, 2008 at 12:54 pm
Yeah, my boss knows from the beginning I want to work for myself. He also encourages me to grow and knows I won’t be there forever, he’s a realist, he knows the government can’t provide what I want. They just don’t have the resources.
I’m a self starter, I need to be working for myself lol.
I don’t know why you the orange man yo! Your stuff aint showing up.
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September 27th, 2008 at 12:42 pm
I work for myself so sometimes my boss annoys me. But I’m not my own boss, my clients are the ones who tell me what to do and pay me. They can be a pain too sometimes.
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September 27th, 2008 at 12:53 pm
I hear you man, that’s a true statement. Your customers do become your boss in a sense. Welcome to the site Justin.
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September 27th, 2008 at 3:28 pm
@Adam – Creadiv.com – Same here adam… It’s hard to hate your boss when he is your dad! My job is great and I love the people I work with!
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September 27th, 2008 at 5:27 pm
That’s cool Tom, what do you do?
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September 28th, 2008 at 10:52 am
Joe! I’m right there with you, man!
I’m all about wanting to find freedom to experience life. I have never wanted to just “be able to tell my boss where to stick it” or anything like that. I just want to be able to spend my time doing the things that mean something to me.
Love the post man…and love your blog. I will most certainly become a regular here!
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September 28th, 2008 at 11:18 am
Welcome to the site Dustin! I hear ya man. It’s not about being rude to folks, even if they’ve been rude to you. I don’t have any issues with my boss, I just know what I want to do, and that’s NOT working for someone else forever.
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September 28th, 2008 at 5:14 pm
Hey, Joe, I really hate my own boss… but I have just found something shocking:
I am my own boss!!
What do I do now?
Help Joe… lol
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September 28th, 2008 at 5:20 pm
Well buddy….this is certainly a problem! First….get you a nice hot ham sammich! (sammiches make it all better) Then, go check out my man Freddie at freddietaylor.com, get you some motivational lovin.
After that….stand in front of the mirror and do the chicken dance…if you still hate your boss after that, come back and I got some special medication for ya!
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September 28th, 2008 at 5:45 pm
LOL! If anybody else catches him doing the chicken dance in front of his mirror with ham breath, they might give him some special medication of their own!
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September 29th, 2008 at 7:39 am
I know right! Lol….ham sammich breath chicken dancin sum bee!
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September 30th, 2008 at 4:37 am
Man, I tried the chicken dance and I got fired by my own boss (hint – it’s me!) – what else should I do?? lol
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September 30th, 2008 at 4:48 am
Codrut….my methods don’t work when you leave stuff out! You did not eat the ham sammich first! Now you can’t go back, you’ve ruined the sequence!
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September 30th, 2008 at 4:53 am
Wow – I simply forgot about that man… that is was happens when you do not listen to your mentor!
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September 30th, 2008 at 12:03 pm
Tisk Tisk lol, it’s all in da sammich man, all in da sammich!
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October 3rd, 2008 at 4:41 pm
In my case I don’t hate my boss…only my team workers.
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October 4th, 2008 at 8:38 am
Hahaha, well, that’s a whole other issue right there!
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October 18th, 2008 at 1:44 pm
It would probably be most beneficial to look at one’s boss as a source of information and as a guide to the next step. Showing contempt or scorn for an individual at a higher level is a solid way to not be able to move up.
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October 18th, 2008 at 6:24 pm
Yeah, I don’t have a problem with my boss at all, but it seems that’s one of the ideas common among online marketers.
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November 19th, 2008 at 11:09 am
Some boss really treat you like slaves and they have no respect for other.. who would like work in such circumstances. Very good article Joe, i really like your thinking.
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November 19th, 2008 at 12:12 pm
Yeah it can be ruff for some folks. I’m glad you like the site! I always enjoy your company
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December 13th, 2008 at 8:20 pm
I’ve never have boss. I have small biz company since I graduate from university
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December 15th, 2008 at 9:25 am
Well that’s great buddy! Good job! Welcome to the site as well.
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December 22nd, 2008 at 3:52 pm
Do you know the joke? What’s the difference between your boss and dildo?
Dildo will never be a real d**k.
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December 22nd, 2008 at 5:47 pm
Daaaaaaaaaang! That’s hardcore. For me, my boss isn’t really a problem, but I know some people have issues with their superiors.
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