Comments on: How can they do it? http://imwithjoe.com/random-rantings/it Internet Marketing and Blogging tips for the normal guys by a normal joe Thu, 28 Aug 2008 10:48:18 +0000 http://wordpress.org/ By: Normal Joe http://imwithjoe.com/random-rantings/it#comment-1020 Normal Joe Tue, 19 Aug 2008 20:22:09 +0000 http://imwithjoe.com/?p=41#comment-1020 No Worries Holls, better now than never :) See, this is the crap I'm talking about. These guys run around talking about how much they want to help out the "little guy" but they use their psychology to get him to spend his mortgage payment on a course that he doesn't need because it talks about setting up a payment system and he doesn't even have a website yet! I have no problem telling someone "hey, you probably really don't need this right now..." and I've done it many times! You know what...those people were grateful! That's all that matters. Sure, I could have probably convinced them to buy whatever else I wanted....just to make more profit, but instead I only recommend what they need. This is for people who actually seek my advice. And with the stuff I promote, I won't just promote something because everyone else is, I need to believe in it. I know you've seen some things...that's why I'm so grateful to know you. I just wish I could get your book into the hands of anyone who even THINKS they want to work online! It should really be required reading!<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('1020','Normal Joe'); return false;">Reply@</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('1020','Normal Joe','No Worries Holls, better now than never :)\n\nSee, this is the crap I\'m talking about. These guys run around talking about how much they want to help out the \"little guy\" but they use their psychology to get him to spend his mortgage payment on a course that he doesn\'t need because it talks about setting up a payment system and he doesn\'t even have a website yet!\n\nI have no problem telling someone \"hey, you probably really don\'t need this right now...\" and I\'ve done it many times! You know what...those people were grateful! That\'s all that matters. Sure, I could have probably convinced them to buy whatever else I wanted....just to make more profit, but instead I only recommend what they need. This is for people who actually seek my advice.\n\nAnd with the stuff I promote, I won\'t just promote something because everyone else is, I need to believe in it.\n\nI know you\'ve seen some things...that\'s why I\'m so grateful to know you. I just wish I could get your book into the hands of anyone who even THINKS they want to work online! It should really be required reading!'); return false;">Quote</a></div> No Worries Holls, better now than never :)
See, this is the crap I’m talking about. These guys run around talking about how much they want to help out the “little guy” but they use their psychology to get him to spend his mortgage payment on a course that he doesn’t need because it talks about setting up a payment system and he doesn’t even have a website yet!

I have no problem telling someone “hey, you probably really don’t need this right now…” and I’ve done it many times! You know what…those people were grateful! That’s all that matters. Sure, I could have probably convinced them to buy whatever else I wanted….just to make more profit, but instead I only recommend what they need. This is for people who actually seek my advice.

And with the stuff I promote, I won’t just promote something because everyone else is, I need to believe in it.

I know you’ve seen some things…that’s why I’m so grateful to know you. I just wish I could get your book into the hands of anyone who even THINKS they want to work online! It should really be required reading!

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]]> By: Holly http://imwithjoe.com/random-rantings/it#comment-1007 Holly Tue, 19 Aug 2008 11:59:41 +0000 http://imwithjoe.com/?p=41#comment-1007 Thank you Joe. :) This response is way overdue but here I am. I was missing out on some really good posts here - your site is so nice Joe. I am extremely, extremely deeply grateful for knowing you, Davin and the other honest internet marketers I've met online. You guys are literally family - and It helps so much to have each other around online.:) Ok so, Joe - what you stated in the post is so true. I was extremely disappointed myself when I discovered some of the top IMarketers to be just out for the cash -clearly not caring one bit about your losses. Oh also, not only that, they were not internet marketers - they didn't know about affiliate marketing (from an affiliate's standpoint), or about SEO (at all), or anything like that. They were EXPERTS in the Sales industry - they knew how to present, how to be excellent professional public speakers, and how to reel you in psychologically. I witnessed it from an outsider's point of view (I was fortunate to not have wasted any of my money because I was already making money online when I went to this conference). But there were hundreds to thousands of people there who were direly in need of some honest guidance. They were spending their last dollars on these coaching programs that they thought would change their lives. It was very upsetting to see the IM gurus taking advantage of the situation. It seemed almost cult-like - and they made people stand up and sing and get really pumped up and motivated, then they would each go into a story and explain some methods to making money (or selling) - and then they would offer to sell yo u a coaching package (for 5-10,000 USD). I asked one of those marketers about the coaching package and he told me bluntly, that I could login to the admin area and check it out myself. I said, "Oh that's ok, I wouldn't want to take up any time or space that would be for those people who paid such money for the service." He told me that it didn't matter - only a few people who purchased would ask for personal help - otherwise the so called "coaching area" was for people to login and download junk (literally, junk). What a package - and a disappointment - it's sick to see these people. They put on such a front. Ok I will stop rambling and complaining here. This is a touchy subject for me (I'll explain that some other time). You take care JK! You keep being you! You, Dav and I are a team - we can all reach and help people. Checkout Hollys last blog post..<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/hollymann/~3/367835549/" rel="">$71,526.66 in Sales - Update with Screenshots</a><div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('1007','Holly'); return false;">Reply@</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('1007','Holly','Thank you Joe. :) This response is way overdue but here I am. I was missing out on some really good posts here - your site is so nice Joe. I am extremely, extremely deeply grateful for knowing you, Davin and the other honest internet marketers I\'ve met online. You guys are literally family - and It helps so much to have each other around online.:) Ok so, Joe - what you stated in the post is so true. I was extremely disappointed myself when I discovered some of the top IMarketers to be just out for the cash -clearly not caring one bit about your losses. Oh also, not only that, they were not internet marketers - they didn\'t know about affiliate marketing (from an affiliate\'s standpoint), or about SEO (at all), or anything like that. They were EXPERTS in the Sales industry - they knew how to present, how to be excellent professional public speakers, and how to reel you in psychologically. I witnessed it from an outsider\'s point of view (I was fortunate to not have wasted any of my money because I was already making money online when I went to this conference). But there were hundreds to thousands of people there who were direly in need of some honest guidance. They were spending their last dollars on these coaching programs that they thought would change their lives. It was very upsetting to see the IM gurus taking advantage of the situation. It seemed almost cult-like - and they made people stand up and sing and get really pumped up and motivated, then they would each go into a story and explain some methods to making money (or selling) - and then they would offer to sell yo u a coaching package (for 5-10,000 USD). I asked one of those marketers about the coaching package and he told me bluntly, that I could login to the admin area and check it out myself. I said, \"Oh that\'s ok, I wouldn\'t want to take up any time or space that would be for those people who paid such money for the service.\" He told me that it didn\'t matter - only a few people who purchased would ask for personal help - otherwise the so called \"coaching area\" was for people to login and download junk (literally, junk). What a package - and a disappointment - it\'s sick to see these people. They put on such a front. Ok I will stop rambling and complaining here. This is a touchy subject for me (I\'ll explain that some other time). You take care JK! You keep being you! You, Dav and I are a team - we can all reach and help people.\n\nCheckout Hollys last blog post..<a href=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~r\/hollymann\/~3\/367835549\/\" rel=\"\">$71,526.66 in Sales - Update with Screenshots<\/a>'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Thank you Joe. :) This response is way overdue but here I am. I was missing out on some really good posts here - your site is so nice Joe. I am extremely, extremely deeply grateful for knowing you, Davin and the other honest internet marketers I’ve met online. You guys are literally family - and It helps so much to have each other around online.:) Ok so, Joe - what you stated in the post is so true. I was extremely disappointed myself when I discovered some of the top IMarketers to be just out for the cash -clearly not caring one bit about your losses. Oh also, not only that, they were not internet marketers - they didn’t know about affiliate marketing (from an affiliate’s standpoint), or about SEO (at all), or anything like that. They were EXPERTS in the Sales industry - they knew how to present, how to be excellent professional public speakers, and how to reel you in psychologically. I witnessed it from an outsider’s point of view (I was fortunate to not have wasted any of my money because I was already making money online when I went to this conference). But there were hundreds to thousands of people there who were direly in need of some honest guidance. They were spending their last dollars on these coaching programs that they thought would change their lives. It was very upsetting to see the IM gurus taking advantage of the situation. It seemed almost cult-like - and they made people stand up and sing and get really pumped up and motivated, then they would each go into a story and explain some methods to making money (or selling) - and then they would offer to sell yo u a coaching package (for 5-10,000 USD). I asked one of those marketers about the coaching package and he told me bluntly, that I could login to the admin area and check it out myself. I said, “Oh that’s ok, I wouldn’t want to take up any time or space that would be for those people who paid such money for the service.” He told me that it didn’t matter - only a few people who purchased would ask for personal help - otherwise the so called “coaching area” was for people to login and download junk (literally, junk). What a package - and a disappointment - it’s sick to see these people. They put on such a front. Ok I will stop rambling and complaining here. This is a touchy subject for me (I’ll explain that some other time). You take care JK! You keep being you! You, Dav and I are a team - we can all reach and help people.

Checkout Hollys last blog post..$71,526.66 in Sales - Update with Screenshots

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