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How do you know you got a Google page rank update

By Normal Joe | July 27, 2008

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How do you know Google updated your page rank?

Well, it’s not that hard if you have the google toolbar plugged in.  However, if you don’t there are some other tools you can use for it as well. Here is a list of some of the places to check your page rank.

Free SEO Tools from SEO Logs

PageRank Script from TareeInternet

What is page rank and why do you care?

PageRank is just what it sounds like.  Google places a rank on all web pages with a value between 0 and 10, 10 being the highest.  Theoretically, the higher the page rank, the more of an authority your website is, or the more popular it is.  Many theories go into how Google determines this, but from what I can tell, these are some of the areas they look at:

  • Backlinks, the number of links pointing to your site from other sites
  • The quality of the backlinks, meaning, how important the site linking to your site is
  • Where you link to, you know, what the links on your site point too
  • Content, I dunno, this just seems to be a factor as well
  • Traffic, again,more traffic means more popularity

It’s basically a metric of reader interaction with your site, in the form of traffic, links and how many people find your site to be useful.  The more links, and the more that popular sites link to you, or the more people that link to you, the higher you will get.

But, really, this is just my opinion, and no one really knows how they calculate it.   We just guess and try to play accordingly.

Some people upset with the recent Google page rank updates

Yeah, some people lost page rank all together, some went down, others stayed the same, and some didn’t get what they thought they would.  There are always going to be some upset folks when the Big G comes through and slaps a sticker on your site.

It’s like the kid in elementary school who’s mom brings in McDonald’s and eats it in the cafeteria with him in front of all the other students that are stuck eating that school lunch.  Now, the school lunch isn’t bad ( in some cases) but, you know kids love McDonald’s so now everything seems to be crap!

What Normal Joe thinks about the update

Regardless, it’s cool, I got some PR lovin now, and it’s just a fun process to be involved in.  I’ll leave you with my thoughts in this short video….told you i’d be using the camera more :)

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77 Responses to “How do you know you got a Google page rank update”
  1. Keith@Affiliate Marketing Tips (1 comments)

    LOL Great video man!

    Congrats on the cert from Google for the PR lol. I seemed to have stayed at 1 myself this time around.

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    Normal Joe (1212 comments) Reply:

    Thanks Keith…I am proud of my cert man! Keep pushing and keep growing, you’ll get it up there next round…I’m sure….

    Checkout Normal Joes last blog post..How do you know you got a Google page rank update

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    Garry Conn (40 comments) Reply:

    I think things will be much better for you on the next update. If not, then I will personally go down and remove all the massage chairs and luxury items that the Google employees have at the Google Complex. LOL!!!

    Checkout Garry Conns last blog post..What Is A Viral Video?

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    Normal Joe (1212 comments) Reply:

    Yeah I hope so….maybe they can send me one of those exercise balls they sit on, or give me a free lunch at one of their many campus cafes….

    I think I’ll be fine, learning from folks like you….I should be good.

    Checkout Normal Joes last blog post..Normal Joe is calling out these bloggers

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    Garry Conn (40 comments) Reply:

    What’s up with all these blogs that have killer info that only have PR1? Did you guys like plan some kind of terrorist attack against Google or something? Sheesh…..

    Checkout Garry Conns last blog post..What Is A Viral Video?

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    Normal Joe (1212 comments) Reply:

    I tell ya man….somebody needs to let us know! Oh well, at least we didn’t lose it, or stay at 0.

    Checkout Normal Joes last blog post..Normal Joe is calling out these bloggers

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  2. Piss Biscuit@The Page Rank Mastermind (1 comments)

    “GREAT POST” LOL…LMAO!

    @ Joe: I love the comedic value of that video… LOL… you should label it “Why Page Rank Sucks” LOL. The smiley face looks a bit spastic though… 8-)

    I REALLY have got to give you props on the camera… I’ve tried video, but I’m too fricken picky and I think I look and sound to much like a doofus. I burned through a handful of DVD’s trying… maybe one day!

    seriously great post though, great video! Here’s a stumble for you sir!
    Oh… and I’m giving your keyword plugin a try too… lets play how long will it take the web developer to figure it out!

    Checkout Piss Biscuits last blog post..PB earns a PR3 in 7 weeks!

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    Normal Joe (1212 comments) Reply:

    Hahahaha, thanks dude! Man, it was fun……I just had to do it man. I told you guys i’d be using that camera more!

    It was the perfect opportunity, and also to help some people laugh at themselves and not get so bent out of shape.

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    Garry Conn (40 comments) Reply:

    I used to publish YouTube videos… they totally blog and I am always conscious of how they look or how I sound. Needless to say, I don’t do that many anymore. Everyone once in awhile I will but they don’t reflect myself in a natural state. LOL!!!

    Checkout Garry Conns last blog post..What Is A Viral Video?

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    Normal Joe (1212 comments) Reply:

    You should bring them back man…the people want to hear from you!

    Checkout Normal Joes last blog post..Normal Joe is calling out these bloggers

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  3. shane at make money blogging (14 comments)

    HAhahahaha joe I got spanked, got whacked from 4 to 2 who knows. I suppose as I have read the whole do follow thingy is PR suicide, maybe being a link hog is a good thing.
    Hey let me know if ever want to start a child link selling slavery thing, I think theres something to that.
    Like a frikken lemonade stand !!!

    Checkout shane at make money bloggings last blog post..Networking mentoring and making money money blogging

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    Normal Joe (1212 comments) Reply:

    Thanks man….lol,

    I don’t know about the dofollow thing, but, I think it’s good to reward the readers of a blog. I’ve toyed with the idea of taking dofollow off of the comments and increasing the top commentator slots…but, I think I like doing that, having the link love.

    I just installed keyword love so if you put shane@makemoneyblogging it will only link the keywords after the @ to your site, so it builds anchor links with good anchor text :)

    Ahh well, I’ll just keep chugging along.

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    Garry Conn (40 comments) Reply:

    From what I head, dofollow’ing comments drains your link juice, whatever that means…. It isn’t necessarily bad to dofollow your comments as long as the links to point to somewhere bad. So I guess in theory, if you dofollow your comments and let a comment post where the comment author links to his blog and does shady things on it, you can feel some effects from that. I guess… again, don’t work at Google, but that is how I think about and that is why I don’t dofollow links on my comments.

    Checkout Garry Conns last blog post..What Is A Viral Video?

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    Normal Joe (1212 comments) Reply:

    Hmmmmm, now that you say that. It makes sense. Especially the part about what they do on their blogs. I think the majority of my readers that comment are on the level…….

    Something to consider, however I know so many High PR blogs that are dofollow, so, the rhyme and reasons still seams elusive! We both know the answer to the secret…now we just need the venue lol

    Checkout Normal Joes last blog post..Normal Joe is calling out these bloggers

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  4. Forest (7 comments)

    Great vid Joe, cracked me up :)

    My main sites are sitting at 0 but its ok… i’ll keep at it.

    Checkout Forests last blog post..Shaners quick guide to living cheap - 20 frugal tips

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    Normal Joe (1212 comments) Reply:

    Thanks for stopping by buddy. Yeah, I don’t know what the deal is, but, I’ll just keep moving forward. You guys should start using the keywordluv plugin, it shows you how to use it below the comment form :)

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  5. Forest@living in a frugal way (3 comments)

    Cheers :)

    I may give the this plugin a try… I have seen in on Vegan Momma’s blog before.

    Checkout Forests last blog post..Shaners quick guide to living cheap - 20 frugal tips

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    Normal Joe (1212 comments) Reply:

    Yeah, it’s nice. Cuts down on names like ” Get your next Lasik eye surgery for 50% off” lol…

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  6. bigknoxy @ KC Chiefs Football (8 comments)

    LOL!!!!!! Hey man, awesome video! Don’t let google spank you on da booty! lol…
    I actually got my first PR as well but it wasn’t on the site I was expecting to get it on as it gets less traffic and has less links than my other site, but it is older… eh, whatever, ya know…
    I’m just happy I got a PR now, but I’m still waiting for that SWEET certificate to come in the mail!

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    Normal Joe (1212 comments) Reply:

    Hahaha, thanks dude. I’m glad you got that PR too, it was a surprise you beat me out! But it’s cool dude, you got that gamer thing going, keep pushing it!

    Glad you liked the video man!

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  7. Garry Conn (40 comments)

    Oh how I just love the blogosphere PageRank drama… it really gives a good burst of material to read every three months or so…

    Joe… your blog is great and your content is awesome and you’re a pretty cool normal joe… I am more happy to see you growing your RSS subscriptions and being active with all your friends on their blogs and in their social networks such as facebook and youtube. I never knew that you have youtube videos up and I am checking them out now… also never knew that you had a facebook account which that is awesome and glad that we have added each other.

    In three months your site will be PR4 or PR5… Just remember, there is ONE way that you can get the secret of PageRank. There is one way that you can unlock the Google Code…

    Solution: Get Matt Cutts drunk off his a$$ and he’ll spill the beans. Just make sure you have a flip cam or something to record it. :)
    Checkout Garry Conns last blog post..How To Talk To Your Kids About Sex

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    Normal Joe (1212 comments) Reply:

    yeah…it’s fun man, figured I’d put the Normal Joe twist on it…

    Thanks for the compliment on the blog, I just try to do things my own little way, and not copy everyone else. Hopefully more will catch on. My daily readers and RSS keeps growing so that’s good with me.

    I remember you told me how to get the secret! I’ll be sure to bring my flip if I’m ever around Matt Cutts!

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    Garry Conn@make money online (5 comments) Reply:

    I remember you told me how to get the secret! I’ll be sure to bring my flip if I’m ever around Matt Cutts!

    … and I’ll be sure to bring the horse tranquilizers and booze. LOL!!!

    Checkout Garry Conns last blog post..What Is A Viral Video?

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    Normal Joe (1212 comments) Reply:

    Let’s do it! :) Then we can create a membership site and sell the secret to 10 people per year…we’ll charge 10,000/head!

    Checkout Normal Joes last blog post..Normal Joe is calling out these bloggers

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  8. Sire (4 comments)

    PageRank Sucks but despite what everyone says we want a pagerank, Google knows it and that’s why it sucks. Good post man.

    Checkout Sires last blog post..Friday’s Funnies #5 Murderer To Satisfy Urges

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    Normal Joe (1212 comments) Reply:

    Yeah man, we all want it, unless you’re John Chow….then it doesn’t really matter. Thanks for stopping by.

    Checkout Normal Joes last blog post..How do you know you got a Google page rank update

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    Garry Conn@make money online (5 comments) Reply:

    Having PageRank does help you rank better for more premium and primary keywords in Google. However, really I don’t focus to much on that. Typically with my blogs the post title is the primary keyword phrase that I am targeting. So when doing that, most of the cases all is fine regardless if you are a PR0 or a PR10.

    Checkout Garry Conns last blog post..What Is A Viral Video?

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    Normal Joe (1212 comments) Reply:

    That makes sense…I just hope my hard work pays off next update! lol, I’ll just keep learning from the masters like the Conn man.

    Checkout Normal Joes last blog post..Normal Joe is calling out these bloggers

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  9. Davin-Viral Marketing Enthusiast (3 comments)

    Awesome vid buddy, lol. Yeah, great camera stuff. I’m not exactly mister personna with all that stuff. It’s good to see a guy that’s fairly comfortable with all that. Talk soon Joe

    Davin

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    Normal Joe (1212 comments) Reply:

    Thanks mate, really appreciate it. Yeah man, this stuff is fun for me, and I usually don’t have problems with being shy or anything so…I’m glad I won the camera.

    I just plan to have fun with it, this vid was made to let some of us laugh at ourselves for how crazy we get behind the Googmonster’s system.

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    Garry Conn (40 comments) Reply:

    This site uses KeywordLuv. Enter YourName@YourKeywords in the Name field to take advantage.

    I don’t quite get that but lets try it:

    garryconn@make money online

    Checkout Garry Conns last blog post..What Is A Viral Video?

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    Garry Conn@make money online (5 comments) Reply:

    lets try that one more time.

    Checkout Garry Conns last blog post..What Is A Viral Video?

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    Garry Conn@make money online (5 comments) Reply:

    Very cool, I see how that works now… that is neat. Where do you download that plugin?

    Checkout Garry Conns last blog post..What Is A Viral Video?

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    Normal Joe (1212 comments) Reply:

    Hahahahaha

    You are hilarious! here’s the link

    http://www.scratch99.com/wordpress-plugin-keywordluv/

    Checkout Normal Joes last blog post..Normal Joe is calling out these bloggers

  10. zania (13 comments)

    I really loved that video :)
    It was entertaining and still informative and put the whole PR thing into perspective - great stuff!

    Love the certificate too, even the smiley….

    Yes, a lot of PR is just guessework isn’t it? And some get their butt’s slapped without even knowing why. (Love the anaology of Google treating us all like babies by the way - how true!).

    And as you said, whether we admit it or not, we all want page rank (for one reason or another…) except for John Chow. But as you said, it doesn’t matter much to him, does it…?

    Checkout zanias last blog post..Does Page Rank Help You Make Money Online?

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    Normal Joe (1212 comments) Reply:

    Hey Zania, I’m glad you liked it! I agree, we all want it, most of us need it, but we don’t understand it! It’s a weird relationship really, but, we must do what we need to get the rank we desire.

    I have another quarter of hard work ahead of me, and we’ll see what I come out with next time. I’m hoping they send me a new certificate with more rank.

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  11. pizza ovens@building-wood-fired-pizza-ovens-plans (1 comments)

    I only noticed about the latest Google’s Page Rank change from reading about it from others. My site’s home page sits on PR4 for a year, I only notice mild changes pages deeper within, I sure watch it it’s like playing a chess game sometimes heaps of variations you want to think of. The blog is new and recent change gave nice PR’s to most posts but none to its blog-home page, must check robots.txt if it’s not disabled but it shouldn’t. What I have noticed just now, my blog is DoFollow (nofollow free) and the PR addition took place at the posts with comments, which is s good sign for the matter! But even more puzzling now. I wish the PR Mystery wasn’t mystery any more, someone could explain it, what everything is reflected by PR?

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    Normal Joe (1212 comments) Reply:

    You know…I don’t really know what all is included in PR calculations. I hear links back to your page, maybe traffic, content…who knows…

    Maybe Google has a big lotter wheel and they just randomly pick PR for sites! All we can do is continue to grow our sites in an organic way and hope we are rewarded with PR.

    Checkout Normal Joes last blog post..Normal Joe is calling out these bloggers

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  12. Big Ben Patton (30 comments)

    I love the vid! It really is an accurate representation of what happens every pr update. I absolutely believe that imwithjoe will hit a pr3/4 next time no problem. Keep the killer content coming!

    Checkout Big Ben Pattons last blog post..Important Page Rank Factors Exposed

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    Normal Joe (1212 comments) Reply:

    Thanks buddy! It really means a lot. Many people think I’ll be up there next time, I don’t know…I’m just gonna keep pushing and see what happens.

    Glad you liked the vid! :)
    Checkout Normal Joes last blog post..Normal Joe is calling out these bloggers

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  13. devilblogger (1 comments)

    my precious PR of 3 sanked to 0..haha

    Checkout devilbloggers last blog post..Why Google demoted my Pagerank

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    Normal Joe (1212 comments) Reply:

    Wow…any idea how that happened?

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  14. pizza ovens@pizza ovens (1 comments)

    Me too who knows how the Page Rank is calculated exactly but there are more insights I got in last 24 hours. Yan produced this great article on the subject with a table explaining a lot How Did Google Calculate Your PR? Thanks for the reply to my coment.

    Checkout pizza ovenss last blog post..Vegetable relish spread rediscovery

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    Normal Joe (1212 comments) Reply:

    No prob, I’ll check out Yan’s post, he has a great blog.

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  15. The Net Fool (27 comments)

    Okay… I totally missed this. This is the funnies video ever, haha. You just earned yourself one dedicated reader :)

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    Normal Joe (1212 comments) Reply:

    Lol, thanks Jim…means a lot coming from you! Glad you enjoyed it!

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  16. theaffiliatepost (15 comments)

    Hahahaha That is priceless Joe. I heard you mention your offical google certificate on your most recent video (loving the vids btw) and was thinkgin WTF! You are too funny!

    I’d like you to re-do that video with a keyword count on the word pagerank!

    Checkout theaffiliateposts last blog post..The PR Update!

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    Normal Joe (1212 comments) Reply:

    Ha! Thanks man….I’m just trying let you guys get to know me a lil bit more. I really enjoy the video man, it ads that personal touch, as, I just get to be myself on camera!

    As for the keyword count…if only they could develop some audio technology to crawl the vids!

    Glad you guys like it man…

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  17. Jay (15 comments)

    LOL.

    My blog was given a PR2 just because the spiders liked the size of my head in proportion to my body.

    The only tips I can offer on how I got that rank is:
    - Don’t update frequently (10 days minimum)
    - Do NOT add posts that are relevant to any partiular niche or each other.
    - Don’t make the site too easy to navigate. I think people like the challenge and will keep coming back.

    There’s more, but I don’t want to get into advanced stuff right now.

    Who knows dude. You’re PR7 in my book!

    Lovin’ the vids.

    Cheers!
    Jay

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  18. Garry Conn (40 comments)

    @Normal Joe - There is a ratio… big blogs and big number of backlinks pointing back to their blog which counter balance the effect.

    …. I think… :)

    Could be wrong.

    Checkout Garry Conns last blog post..GC/DC Was In A Huge Forest Fire!

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    Normal Joe (1212 comments) Reply:

    It’s all good man…I’m just gonna roll with it. I’m sure you have a little idea of how things work.

    Checkout Normal Joes last blog post..New Theme, New Direction, Same Joe.

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  19. Freddie (86 comments)

    Man Joe, congrats on the Google cert….LOL!

    As usual, you crack me up. As for the Page Rank, I am with you and have no clue how it works, but I AM ADDICTED TO IT!!!! LOL! Like most bloggers, I wish mine was higher, but hey what can you do?

    KEEP BLOGGING!!! That is what you can do and that is what I plan on doing.

    During this update, our site went from 2 to 3, so that is great. I think it had something to do with us switching from static pages to a blog format. We made the move about a month ago or so and I hear that Page Rank, well Google for that matter, prefers blogs over regular websites.

    Nevertheless, the addition is great, but I would trade it all for more traffic and a solid communicating community. That is what we are all blogging for, to help others and have others help others, right?

    Congrats again and as usual….

    I’m with Joe!

    Checkout Freddies last blog post..MY 1ST REHAB: Cheron Williams

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    Normal Joe (1212 comments) Reply:

    Thanks man! I love that thing man!

    We all are slaves to the page rank in some way or another, everyone will be checking it again in a few months! We’ll see what happens, will I get a new cert, or will they snatch the one I already have? Only time will tell :)
    I do know the Goog loves blogs man, so congrats on the rise from 2 to 3, maybe I’ll be able to join you.

    And you’re right, I love creating a community more than pursuing page rank,eventually if you keep building the community structure, the page rank will follow. I just don’t “chase it” so to speak.

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  20. peter@Peter Answers (5 comments)

    I’ve got blogs that range from 0 PR to 5 PR and I don’t know how much difference it makes to be honest - my PR 3 blog makes me the most money to be honest, although I probably could monetize my PR 5 blog better - I have noticed people willing to spend money for links on there for the Goolge Juice.

    Checkout peters last blog post..Why Doesn’t Peter Answer Me?

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    Normal Joe (1212 comments) Reply:

    Yeah, I don’t know…as long as I get some good traffic and readers I’m happy. PR is good for advertising, but even if you don’t have great PR, if your traffic and site stats are decent, folks will still pay to advertise.

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  21. WebTrafficROI (10 comments)

    The video rocks , i like your creative approach to posts…keep it going

    Checkout WebTrafficROIs last blog post..Toronto Bloggers Meet With John Chow & Yaro

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